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		<title>John McCain and Barack Obama Face Off</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Alright, we have a middle schooler who is involved in speech and debate and what better way to get "good" material than the presidential debates as two maverick candidates from their respective parties faced off in front of Jim Lehrer, last night? </p>
<p>While the <i>aam junta</i> is awaiting a congressional decision regarding the bailout of Wall Street crooks (The begger, Mr. Paulson is estimated to have assets worth $700 million; maybe he should donate all of it and ask 999 other friends of his to do the same- he just needs to ask Mr. Bush for the list of his cronies including Cheyney and others who have made indecent amounts of money in Iraq), the two presidential candidates got their boxing gloves on to "debate" in public. While the tone was primarily cordial, it was clear to see the vision of either men. Both were happily playing "Taffy Man", stretching and contorting comments made by each other to suit their purposes.</p>
<p>In my opinion, McCain is clinging too much to a 20th century model of "American imperialism" while Obama is willing to embrace an "integrative", networking model of the US in the 21st century. I guess that pretty much sums up the basic difference in treatment of most issues.</p>
<p>Coincidentally, I was in an 8th grade class discussing patriotism yesterday in the context of the American Revolution. It was interesting to see the views of American 8th graders match with much of what McCain spoke of on honor and duty to one's country. When I shared the idea of dual citizenship, they could not comprehend that such an idea could exist!</p>
<p>Obama, having lived in a poorer Indonesia, has a very different world view. This basic difference cannot be changed. Being a Prisoner of War in Vietnam is a very different life experience of being in a "foreign" land accepting their local cultures and foods as your own.</p>
<p>The American public's vote will decide just how mature they are with regards to democracy. If the majority thinks in imperialistic terms (which is very highly possible), then McCain wins. If they have just a tad bit of humility and know that they are just one country in some 190+ nations on this third rock from the sun, then just maybe, Obama might win.</p>
<p>Knowing my neighbors and the overall "patriotic" rhetoric of the <i>aam junta</i>, much of the imperialistic arrogance lingers on in the age groups over 30. Sarah Palin is a prime example of that "hockey mom syndrome". If Obama succeeds in recruiting more of the 18 plus age group, then, with his "liberal" supporters from the older age group, he may just swing the vote in his favor. </p>
<p>We certainly live in interesting times when an entire nation's ability to make decisions, hopefully intelligent ones at that, gets to be played out as a Reality Show on television. That must have been the only reason for McCain's acquiescence to do the debate after refusing the previous day, "owing to the economy"! </p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, we have a middle schooler who is involved in speech and debate and what better way to get "good" material than the presidential debates as two maverick candidates from their respective parties faced off in front of Jim Lehrer, last night? </p>
<p>While the <i>aam junta</i> is awaiting a congressional decision regarding the bailout of Wall Street crooks (The begger, Mr. Paulson is estimated to have assets worth $700 million; maybe he should donate all of it and ask 999 other friends of his to do the same- he just needs to ask Mr. Bush for the list of his cronies including Cheyney and others who have made indecent amounts of money in Iraq), the two presidential candidates got their boxing gloves on to "debate" in public. While the tone was primarily cordial, it was clear to see the vision of either men. Both were happily playing "Taffy Man", stretching and contorting comments made by each other to suit their purposes.</p>
<p>In my opinion, McCain is clinging too much to a 20th century model of "American imperialism" while Obama is willing to embrace an "integrative", networking model of the US in the 21st century. I guess that pretty much sums up the basic difference in treatment of most issues.</p>
<p>Coincidentally, I was in an 8th grade class discussing patriotism yesterday in the context of the American Revolution. It was interesting to see the views of American 8th graders match with much of what McCain spoke of on honor and duty to one's country. When I shared the idea of dual citizenship, they could not comprehend that such an idea could exist!</p>
<p>Obama, having lived in a poorer Indonesia, has a very different world view. This basic difference cannot be changed. Being a Prisoner of War in Vietnam is a very different life experience of being in a "foreign" land accepting their local cultures and foods as your own.</p>
<p>The American public's vote will decide just how mature they are with regards to democracy. If the majority thinks in imperialistic terms (which is very highly possible), then McCain wins. If they have just a tad bit of humility and know that they are just one country in some 190+ nations on this third rock from the sun, then just maybe, Obama might win.</p>
<p>Knowing my neighbors and the overall "patriotic" rhetoric of the <i>aam junta</i>, much of the imperialistic arrogance lingers on in the age groups over 30. Sarah Palin is a prime example of that "hockey mom syndrome". If Obama succeeds in recruiting more of the 18 plus age group, then, with his "liberal" supporters from the older age group, he may just swing the vote in his favor. </p>
<p>We certainly live in interesting times when an entire nation's ability to make decisions, hopefully intelligent ones at that, gets to be played out as a Reality Show on television. That must have been the only reason for McCain's acquiescence to do the debate after refusing the previous day, "owing to the economy"! </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Tina Fey Reloads</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following popular demand, Tina Fey is back as Sarah Palin. After an internationally appraised impersonation of Gov. Sarah Palin in her first Saturday Night Live sketch as a “spot on” act, Tina Fey is reenacting Gov. Palin’s interview with CBS host Katie Couric. Although the first sketch did receive a certain disapproval, Fey’s audience was demanding an encore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following popular demand, Tina Fey is <a href="http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/couric-palin-open/704042/">back</a> as Sarah Palin. After an internationally appraised impersonation of Gov. Sarah Palin in her <a href="http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/09/16/fey-as-palin-the-world-reacts/">first</a> Saturday Night Live sketch as a “spot on” act, Tina Fey is reenacting Gov. Palin’s interview with CBS host Katie Couric. Although the first sketch did receive a certain <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GYXKHYIKl8&amp;feature=related">disapproval</a>, Fey’s audience was demanding an encore.</p>
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<p>India&#39;s <em>Docmitasha</em>, who is not a fan of Gov. Palin, <a href="http://docmitasha.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/does-sarah-palin-need-tina-fey/">says</a> :</p>
<blockquote><p> I laughed so hard in the second one! I love Tina Fey. Too good.<br />
&#8230;Palin is enough of a parody. Please, lets not let this joke continue. Like Tina Fey says, she’d like to stop playing her November 5th.</p></blockquote>
<p>Majaz at <em>The Black Mirror</em>, who is <a href="http://theblackmirror.blogspot.com/2008/09/tina-fey-is-my-hero.html">blogging</a> from Pakistan, is no stranger to SNL or Tina Fey:</p>
<blockquote><p>Like millions, I&#39;ve been a fan of SNL for a very long time. But this is something that makes me just accept it out loud.</p>
<p>Tina Fey is my hero.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jessica from Australia praised Fey&#39;s impersonation and <a href="http://jezebel.com/5056023/tina-fey-as-sarah-palin-katie-id-like-to-use-one-of-my-life-lines">added</a> words of her own:</p>
<blockquote><p>Can you really parody something that&#39;s already a joke? Well, Tina Fey and Amy Poehler tried their darndest to parody the Katie Couric interview of Sarah Palin on last night&#39;s SNL, and they didn&#39;t need to stray particularly far from the original source material to create some cringeworthy laughs.</p></blockquote>
<p>From Canada, John left his readers a <a href="http://shatnerian.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/tina-feys-latest-sarah-palin-sketch/">comment</a> after watching the sketch:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are rumours coming through the internet tubes that McCain may try to replace Palin. If he choses Tina Fey, I don’t think anyone would notice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maria from Granada, <a href="http://piscesinpurple.com/2008/09/tina-fey-plays-sarah-palin">reacted </a>to the clip and left friendly advice for Tina Fey:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have a huge girlcrush on Tina Fey, so I usually can’t be objective about her, it’s all gold to me.  But when I watch her playing Palin, I’m endlessly preoccupied with the question:  Is Tina wearing extra hair?</p>
<p>Tina, next time mess up your bangs like Sarah does for big interviews.  Also, work on your deer-in-headlights face.  Then you’ll be “perfection”.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Ham-the-geek </em><a href="http://hamisageek.blogspot.com/2008/09/pageant-sash-and-tina-fey-glasses.html">updated</a> his earlier post on the first sketch, commenting that the new one wasn&#39;t as funny as he thought of the first one:</p>
<blockquote><p>I just found out that Tina Fey reprised her role as Sarah Palin in another intro skit just last night. I don&#39;t think it was as funny as the first one but judge for yourselves.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Hello Sluggo&#39;s</em> blogger, in addition to giving his approval to Fey&#39;s performance, turned his attention to something else entirely as it shows in his <a href="http://hellosluggo.com/?p=182">post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was watching Tina Fey’s spot-on Sarah Palin impression from last night’s Saturday Night Live when it occured to me, “Is everyone else as curious about the scar on Tina Fey’s face as I am?” So I simply entered her name as a Google search and let the query suggestion feature answer the question for me.</p>
<p>Beyond the scar issue, there was one thing that really stuck out—66,800 searches for tina fey wikipedia</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[Firstly, watch Triumph the Comic Insult Dog&#8217;s classic foray into &#8217;spin alley&#8217; in 2004.
If you have more time, then this bloggingheads on a liberal v libertarian foreign policy is a must-watch. Both Heather Hurlburt and Chris Preble are very smart people with interesting and nuanced opinions on foreign policy. Seriously, its a great discussion and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, watch Triumph the Comic Insult Dog&#8217;s <a href="http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/21318/detail/">classic foray into &#8217;spin alley&#8217; in 2004</a>.</p>
<p>If you have more time, then this <a href="http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/14626?in=31:40&amp;out=34:33">bloggingheads</a> on a liberal v libertarian foreign policy is a must-watch. Both Heather Hurlburt and Chris Preble are very smart people with interesting and nuanced opinions on foreign policy. Seriously, its a great discussion and you won&#8217;t regret it. </p>
<p>The debate starts at 2 am but if anyone is interested i may try and setup a liveblog from either midnight or 1 if anyone is interested. No point doing this if no one is around but if you do want to drop by for a chat (hopefully at least 3 people) then let me know in the comments. </p>
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		<title>Origins or Terror in Pakistan: Across the border</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[پاکستاان لیجر &#124; PAKISTAN LEDGER &#124; پاکستاني کھاتا  &#124;Sept. 23rd, 08 &#124; Moin Ansari &#124;  معین آنصآرّی &#124;     Former President Pervez Musharraf once described it as a delicate art of "tightrope walking"; the problem for Zard...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[پاکستاان لیجر | PAKISTAN LEDGER | پاکستاني کھاتا  |Sept. 23rd, 08 | Moin Ansari |  معین آنصآرّی |   <br /><br />  <br /><br />Former President Pervez Musharraf once described it as a delicate art of "tightrope walking"; the problem for Zardari is that the rope is fraying and the winds are growing fierce. According to a June poll conducted by the International Republican Institute, 71% of Pakistanis oppose Pakistan's cooperation with the U.S. against Islamist militants. For critics of the policy, it has always been "an American war" forced on an unwilling country, and they blame it for bringing the Afghan conflict over the border and encouraging a wave of terrorism in Pakistan's major cities. Time Magazine September 23rd, 2008<br /><br />Terror has raised its ugly head in Pakistan again. There are two kinds of thinking on this matter, "The blame Pakistan first crowd", and "Blame everything on America crowd". It is pedantic to execute an exegetical examination of of the terror data in order to try to list, define, and describe the roots of the origins of terror in Pakistan--then and now. Pakistan has faced terror in two time periods, during the 80s and in the post 911 era.<br /><br />The Marriott devastation has traumatised Islamabad as never before, despite having seen violence and terrorism with regularity over the last few years – especially since last year. Perhaps it was the widespread damage far beyond the Marriott, which in itself was as tragic as it was horrific, or perhaps it was the live television coverage that took the horror to everyone’s home. Anger, rage, condemnation, fear and helplessness are certainly some of the emotions that have been brought to the fore.Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 2008. The writer is a defence analyst. Email: callstr@hotmail.com<br /><br />a) Terror against Pakistan in the 80s: The worst incidents of terror were during the 80s during the US sponsored war against the USSR that was carried on in Afghanistan. General (Retd) Hamid Gul lists many incidents of terror that were directly tied to RAW, KGB and Khad. The attacks on Pakistan were never carried out is a simple manner. There was much thought put into the location of the bombs so as to cause maximum harm in terms of blood and gore but also in terms of psychological and long term damage. The attacks carried on Pakistan were placed in Sunni and Shia places of worship. This had the dual affect of exacting blood, but also was an attempt to create religious strife among Pakistanis. Another RAW tactic was to create ethnic strife among the citizens of Pakistan. By using terror against one ethnic group, the Indians want to create racial divisions in Pakistan. This has worked for for them in many areas of the world. This is a favorite of the Indian terror tactics which they have perfected in Sri Lanka, Tibet, Sikkim, Bhutan and Bangladesh and Pakistan.<br /><br />"I think it is essential for Pakistan to be a willing partner in any strategy we have to deal with the threat coming out of the western part of Pakistan and the eastern part of Afghanistan," September 23rd, 2008: US Defense Secretary Robert Gates at hearing of Senate Armed Services Committee.<br /><br />b) Post 911 terror: After the Afghan war was over, there was a lull in the terror attacks. Listening to the purile cowering of Mr. Karzai, one wonders about his maturity level.His own record on managing his fiefdom is execrable The current spate of attacks against Pakistan became more severe when the tide of the Afghan war began turning against the occupation forces who went there to liberate the country. There is now an exponential increase in terror in Pakistan after the completion of and operation of the 4 Indian Consulates and 13 "Information Centers" in Afghanistan.<br /><br />If we can officially create space between the US and ourselves, and there can be no covert assent to US access in Pakistan as was the case with the previous government – something that was consistently criticised in these columns – at least the nation will rally around the state and allow it to make an effective beginning to a long term strategy to deal with extremism and violence. Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 2008<br /><br />Shireen Mazari is right when she says that terrorism in Pakistan has many different origins.  It is pedagogical to note that most of the terror against Pakistan started after 911. She has criticized the PPPPs pusillanimous response to threats from across the border. We have expanded Dr. Mazari's list to six broad categories of the origins of terror in Pakistan.<br /><br />1) Al-Qaeda: This ephemeral group is the "catch all" for all activities that are carried on against the US and its proxies. This group has its origins outside Pakistan and is funded outside Pakistan. According to the CIA reports it attacks US targets. Many do not believe that the group exists as a cohesive unit and some conspiracy theorists believe that the groups persona has been manufactured and embellished to malign and discredit institutions and countries. <br /><br />..a strategy has to first recognise that terrorism in Pakistan has a number of differing origins: there is the most violent one that is rooted in distorted religious extremism and is linked to Al Qaeda and seeks indiscriminate destruction for impact. This is not about winning hearts and minds so much as creating fear in hearts and minds. Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 200<br /><br /> <br /><br />2) Balauch "Sub-Nationalists": This group of Pakistani malcontents had their hay day during the Cold War when it was funded, aided and abetted by the masters in the Soviet Union and India. It has its origins outside Pakistan and is funded outside Pakistan. Recently the BLA has been resurrected with different masters. The Government of Balauchistan has been established in Tel Aviv and many Balauch remnants are supported by New Delhi.<br /><br />But there is also the political sub-national violence and terrorism, such as in Balochistan, which is also abetted by external forces but has indigenous political roots, and discriminates in its targeting. This attempts to win hearts and minds and so targets are selective – security forces and strategic installations – and is susceptible to a political solution. Clearly an overarching strategy would need to make these distinctions.Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 2008<br /><br /> <br /><br />3) Kabul miscreants and Northern Alliance and Pro-Indian Karzaiites: These groups have their origins outside Pakistan and is funded from sources outside Pakistan. This groups is meant to avenge the impotence and inefficiency of the government organs of Kabul. The US may tolerat these elements but Pakistan considers them sworn enemies.<br /><br /> <br /><br />4) Criminal elements and Drug Lords: There are criminal elements on both sides of the border that are taking advantage of the situation and often use the name of other groups. The hostage taking of the Pakistani ambassador to Kabul is a case in point. The Ambassador was taken hostage by thugs, and criminals and later sold to a different groups. He may have finally ended up with the Taliban.<br /><br /> <br /><br />5) The 38 groups fighting the US Occupation forces in Afghanistan: "Taliban, Hizb e Islami, Hizb ul Mujihideen and others. These groups are busy fighting the occupation forces in Afghanistan and have not attacked Pakistan.<br /><br /> <br /><br /> <br /><br />The [September 23rd, 2008: Robert Gates at hearing of Senate Armed Services Committee.]defense secretary acknowledged that the Pakistanis did not see all insurgent groups as enemies. Pakistan, he said, has had a long-term relationship with the group led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, leader of the Hezb e-Islami party, and another by Jalaludin Haqqani, a former Taliban commander. <br /><br />"I think in many respects they don't see the Taliban as their enemy," September 23rd, 2008: US Defense Secretary Robert Gates at hearing of Senate Armed Services Committee.<br /><br />6) Tehrik e Taliban and Fidayeen: This terror group is purely a terror group with almost no agenda expect to destabilize Pakistan. Without a doubt this terror group has its origins outside Pakistan and is funded outside Pakistan. This group is a well funded and diabolically oiled machine that has mounted extremely satanically planned attacks on the Pakistan army as well as Pakistani hospitals and civilian targets of little value to any armed group. The ruthlessness of the group can be judged by the fact that it has taken hundreds of innocent lives.<br /><br />Over a year ago, in these columns I had written about strange American personnel going in the direction of Warsak and now we have a disturbing story of US marines with questionable baggage, which was not screened and one has to wonder why, on the fourth floor of the Marriott – where the fire first started. Were their some weapons or incendiary devices which the Marines had brought in? The time has come for the government to come clean on this and stop such covert US activities for the future. As for US "advisers" or "trainers" coming in, our people and leaders should recall that that is how the US began its military invasion in South Vietnam – advisers followed by troops! Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 2008<br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />7) Domestic Malcontents: There is no doubt that there are some elements in Pakistan who want to make trouble for the Pakistani government which they see as a proxy of the US.However these miscreants neither have the wherewithal nor can they survive without the oxygen that is provided to them from outside sources.<br /><br />In the context of FATA, any strategy would have to include, alongside a delinkage with the US, a genuine and immediate political and economic outreach to the people of FATA and other violence affected areas of Pakhtunkhwa, under the umbrella of military protection. People who do not support extremist militancy must be given protection and positive incentives to remain steadfast while the fence sitters must be shown benefits of coming over to the state’s side and costs for not doing so. Protect the locals so that they can shun the extremists without fear of retribution. Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 2008<br /><br /><br /><br />Pakistan may identify terrorists against Pakistan in countries outside Pakistan and request the US help. This is on a case by case basis.<br /><br /> <br /><br />8) US attacks on Pakistan: Ostensibly the attacks on Pakistan are made on the pretexts of hot pursuit. <br /><br /> <br /><br />"I will say to you, though, we will do what is necessary to protect our troops, but it is every important to engage the Pakistani government. <br /><br />"And I think the threat that they are seeing, threats to themselves, creates the opportunity where we can work together and there is no necessity for us to take any actions to protect our troops along those lines," Gates at hearing of Senate Armed Services Committee<br /><br />Most of the drone bombings have been against the innocent civilians. Even if the drone bombings were considered successful, the impact of the bombings has been negative. In killing a few terrorists the bombs have created more anti-Americanism than ever before. The US is losing the war in Afghanistan. So the policy of bombing targets in Pakistan has not worked. It has not only backfired, it has created a blowback for Pakistan as well as prop-Americans in Pakistan.<br /><br />And, while we are seeking to fight our own terrorists, let us not forget that we also confront an equally menacing threat from the US which has already infiltrated our country at multiple levels. That is why winning over our own people and exposing the many-headed enemy has to be the starting point. Otherwise Pakistan is in danger of being reduced to just so much collateral damage! Shireen Mazari. The News Sept 24th, 2008<br /><br />MILITANTS WITHIN PAKISTANI TERRITORY: Pakistan will deal with all militants within Pakistani territory. No help is required from the US.<br /><br /> <br /><br /><br />APPENDIX A: <br /><br />Pakistan: just so much collateral damage? By Shireen M Mazari 9/24/2008 <br /><br />The Marriott devastation has traumatised Islamabad as never before, despite having seen violence and terrorism with regularity over the last few years – especially since last year. Perhaps it was the widespread damage far beyond the Marriott, which in itself was as tragic as it was horrific, or perhaps it was the live television coverage that took the horror to everyone’s home. Anger, rage, condemnation, fear and helplessness are certainly some of the emotions that have been brought to the fore. <br /><br />Anger and rage over the act itself and the timing – the month of Ramazan and just when Muslims were ending their fast; anger and rage also at those who have the gall to call themselves Muslims and then kill their fellow Muslims, indeed their fellow human beings, through such barbaric acts of violence; anger and rage at the total failure of the security apparatus of the state, despite the hotel being in the Red Zone of high security; anger and rage at the continuing disconnect within the government, with even the prime minister and interior adviser at cross purposes in their pronouncements – even now the disconnect continues with the interior minister declaring that the official Iftar party was initially to be held at the Marriot while the hotel staff has categorically stated that there was no such arrangement. And, there is anger over the inadequacy of emergency response equipment and procedures, despite the capital having gone through an earthquake and earlier acts of terror. Some of us had always critiqued the CDA’s elitist focus under Lashari and once again Islamabad has paid a heavy price for this. <br /><br /><br />There is condemnation for the state leaving its citizenry at the mercy of the terrorists – both from within and from outside. The total focus of the state on the ruling elite was evident in the immediate aftermath of the Marriott attack when representatives of the official party came on television and pronounced that the security arrangements had saved the lives of the ruling elite safely ensconced in the Prime Minister House – what insensitivity at the devastation of the rest of Pakistan and its citizenry. Moreover if we are to believe the national security adviser that the official iftar party venue was changed at the last minute, did this justify a security lapse in terms of protecting the Marriott since the government seemed to have known of an impending attack? Certainly no condemnation can be too strong for the state looking merely to its own and leaving the rest of the population as cannon fodder for the terrorists.<br /><br /><br />The fear and helplessness have been growing within ordinary Pakistanis since our state went into the US war in Afghanistan. Fear that this war, if fought on US terms would extol a heavy price from Pakistan and helplessness in the face of our state’s non-responsiveness to the voice of its own people. As the US war has drawn Pakistan into a deathly vortex of a new home-grown terror of suicide bombings and Iraq-imported Improvised Exploding Devices (IEDs), more space is being created for extremists and terrorists from within us – as the state has yet to project credibility over its own war against terrorism.<br /><br /><br />If we in Islamabad feel all these intense emotions in the aftermath of the Marriott attack, can we not for one second step back and reflect on how the people of the FATA region have been feeling when confronted with death and destruction at the hands of foreign military power with their own state a seemingly helpless bystander? Is it any wonder that impressionable young youth have offered their lives in the face of the death and destruction of their families and homes – especially when they see their state do nothing? Can we not see that it takes little for the evil preachers of hate and nihilism to convert such people to taking their own lives along with many innocent others? Is there to be no rage, anger, condemnation, fear and helplessness amongst these local people when they see innocent families wiped out by US drones, missiles and now ground troops, as their own state does nothing? And, is it any wonder, that in the settled areas like Swat violence and militancy have flourished because the hapless locals are convinced the state offers no security against the hate teachings of the extremists? <br /><br /><br />The misguided and fearful people of these extremist-infested areas are the human shields for the terrorists and this phenomenon has now spread as the internally displaced people (IDPs) have moved far beyond their homes. Leaving aside our emotions, a reality check will show how our state has to create the space between itself and the US if it is to mobilise support for its own war against terrorists and extremists within the country. Yes, we do have a war on our hands but it is different from the US war which has its own agenda, and it has to be fought differently – within an overarching political strategy and economic and military tactical prongs. Effectiveness of such a war will depend on establishing credibility for it and that cannot come unless we create space from the US. <br /><br /><br />Over a year ago, in these columns I had written about strange American personnel going in the direction of Warsak and now we have a disturbing story of US marines with questionable baggage, which was not screened and one has to wonder why, on the fourth floor of the Marriott – where the fire first started. Were their some weapons or incendiary devices which the Marines had brought in? The time has come for the government to come clean on this and stop such covert US activities for the future. As for US "advisers" or "trainers" coming in, our people and leaders should recall that that is how the US began its military invasion in South Vietnam – advisers followed by troops! <br /><br /><br />If we can officially create space between the US and ourselves, and there can be no covert assent to US access in Pakistan as was the case with the previous government – something that was consistently criticised in these columns – at least the nation will rally around the state and allow it to make an effective beginning to a long term strategy to deal with extremism and violence. Such a strategy has to first recognise that terrorism in Pakistan has a number of differing origins: there is the most violent one that is rooted in distorted religious extremism and is linked to Al Qaeda and seeks indiscriminate destruction for impact. This is not about winning hearts and minds so much as creating fear in hearts and minds. But there is also the political sub-national violence and terrorism, such as in Balochistan, which is also abetted by external forces but has indigenous political roots, and discriminates in its targeting. This attempts to win hearts and minds and so targets are selective – security forces and strategic installations – and is susceptible to a political solution. Clearly an overarching strategy would need to make these distinctions. <br /><br /><br />In the context of FATA, any strategy would have to include, alongside a delinkage with the US, a genuine and immediate political and economic outreach to the people of FATA and other violence affected areas of Pakhtunkhwa, under the umbrella of military protection. People who do not support extremist militancy must be given protection and positive incentives to remain steadfast while the fence sitters must be shown benefits of coming over to the state’s side and costs for not doing so. Protect the locals so that they can shun the extremists without fear of retribution.<br /><br /><br />Beyond FATA, there is a need to seriously implement the much-touted but not enforced policy of madressah reform. In this context, all foreign funding for any form of educational or charitable project needs to be transparent and public. Similarly, local donations to schools and charities should be made public.<br /><br /><br />And, while we are seeking to fight our own terrorists, let us not forget that we also confront an equally menacing threat from the US which has already infiltrated our country at multiple levels. That is why winning over our own people and exposing the many-headed enemy has to be the starting point. Otherwise Pakistan is in danger of being reduced to just so much collateral damage!<br /><br /><br />The writer is a defence analyst. Email: callstr@hotmail.com]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Global: Let the financial sector eat cake?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Japan, people have seen the election of four Prime Ministers in the past two years. The process has been described as “remarkably well-governed” because the professionalism of the so-called professional class, the bureaucrats who actually run the country. What would people say about the United States? Have the regulators, these so-called professional bureaucrats who work above the political fray handled the economy better than the political class?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over in India, <a href="http://satyameva-jayate.org/2008/09/24/politicians-irrelevant/">Satyameva Jayate</a> debates the suggestion in Time Magazine whether we may be entering a “post-modern” era, where “…politics, something that we have assumed for 200 years was the wellspring of national success or failure, is somehow just not that important..”</p>
<p>It’s a discussion about politics in Japan, where people have seen the election of four Prime Ministers in the past two years, but the article calls “remarkably well-governed” because the professionalism of the so-called professional class, the bureaucrats who actually run the country.  </p>
<p>Satyemva Jayate&#39;s analysis: </p>
<blockquote><p>Might such a thing ever happen in India? I doubt it…</p></blockquote>
<p>What would people say about the United States? Have the regulators, these so-called professional bureaucrats who work above the political fray handled the economy better than the political class?  </p>
<p>We will soon find out. In the news, Congressional leaders <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/29/business/29bailout.html?_r=1&#038;hp=&#038;oref=slogin&#038;pagewanted=all">claim</a> they have finished work on the Wall Street Bailout Bill, an estimated $700 billion outlay intended to put an end to two weeks of turbulence in the United State’s financial and credit sectors. The House of Representatives, where a potential rebellion of conservative Republicans may stall the proposal’s passage, is due to vote Monday, Sept. 29. The Senate is scheduled to vote on the plan shortly thereafter. </p>
<p>In a country where political acronyms have become an artform, the 106-page bill creates another: TARP, the Troubled Asset Relief Program, interpreted by the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092800064_pf.html">Washington Post</a>  as: </p>
<blockquote><p>“empower[ing] the [Treasury] secretary to buy &#8220;toxic&#8221; assets from financial institutions with taxpayer money. By removing such assets from the balance sheets of crippled companies, the bill&#39;s architects hope to reduce pressures on the credit market, thereby making it easier for Americans to get mortgages and other types of loans.”
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<p>The Post story quotes Republican Senator Judd Gregg that once the plan jump starts the American economy, U.S. taxpayers will make money from the measure. </p>
<p>Ian Welsh from <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/28/congress-reaches-a-bailout-deal-throws-in-kitchen-sink-throws-out-bankruptcy-law-fixes/">Fire Dog Lake</a> in Australia has a great explainer on the components of the bill. Short take: 90 percent of the suck you were expecting. </p>
<p>A skeleton version of the long take: </p>
<p>- The $700 billion will be staggered, giving U.S. Treasury Secretary $350 upfront, another $350 released in January. </p>
<p>- No change in bankruptcy laws: “Yes, banks will be helped not to go bankrupt, but if you go bankrupt judges won&#39;t be able to allow you to keep your house.&#8221;<br />
- &#8220;Treasury to help people avoid foreclosures if it owns their mortgages.&#8221;<br />
- &#8220;Treasury has the authority to issue insurance.&#8221;<br />
- &#8220;If it doesn&#39;t pay back in 5 years, Treasury to levy fees on the financial industry to get the money back.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here’s his explainer: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;[W]hile this plan is an improvement on the original Paulson plan, which is saying, well, almost nothing. It&#39;s still a plan that, at the end of the day, won&#39;t work. That doesn&#39;t mean we won&#39;t see some short term benefits. Throw 700 billion bucks at the economy and the financial sector and it will do something. That&#39;s still a ton of money. But it won&#39;t fix the problem permanently, it will only patch it for a time and even during that time, things will continue to get worse. (For example, expect this to cause oil inflation.)<br />
It&#39;s a bad plan that won&#39;t fix the economy or the financial sector. So we&#39;ll be revisiting this issue in 6 to 9 months or so when it becomes clear that the problem hasn&#39;t been solved, and that not solving it is costing a hell of a lot of money which could have been used to actually fix things.</p></blockquote>
<p>With Congressional leaders &#8212; and presidential candidates &#8212; in both parties at least mildly supporting the bill, the odds are in favor of the bailout passing. Let&#39;s be snarky for a second and imagine what happens if it doesn’t pass.  Here’s an interesting <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2008/09/crisis_roundtable_why_we_are_w.cfm">explainer</a> intended to counter the do-nothing rhetoric (let the cake-eaters eat cake?) coming from certain corners. But <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/28/plan-passed-economy-banks-saved/#comment-519056">Katz</a>, a commenter on the Australian blog Larvatus Prodeo is having none of that argument. Warning: upcoming War on Terror analogy.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have proven the efficacy of suicide bombing.</p>
<p>“Give us what we want or we’ll take all of you with us.”</p>
<p>Memo to suicide bombers everywhere: you need bigger bombs.
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<p>So, where, exactly, is this bailout money going to come from? Darryl Mason writing in <a href="http://yournewreality.blogspot.com/2008/09/china-japan-will-own-us-they-already-do_28.html">Your New Reality</a> in Australia claims the buyers of American debt will be the very institutions who already own the country: The governments of Japan and China. </p>
<blockquote><p>The message is clear. BushCo. will secure China&#39;s holdings of American debt, by staking the financial future, and health and education, of American children as collateral. Or China will drop the hammer. In case BushCo. didn&#39;t get the message, queen takes knight : </p>
<p>&#8230;The Federal Reserve and the Treasury do not really need to ride to the rescue of its debt-savaged financial institutions if only they really believed in their own shattered mantras of &#8220;Free Market Forever&#8221; and &#8220;Let The Market Decide.&#8221; China, the Saudis, the Russians are all eager to snap up some huge chunks of America at bargain basement prices. In a truly globalised, free market world, all these financial institutions should be up for sale to the highest bidder (with a few restrictions).</p>
<p>But they won&#39;t be doing that. So instead its a betrayal by BushCo. of almost everything principle claimed to stand for, and preached, and it&#39;s America Fleeced.</p></blockquote>
<p>From Kuwait, <a href="http://kill.thatdamnpatient.com/?p=56">Kill That Damn Patient</a>, has  a second option: buy up toxic debt through legalizing marijuana. Before you spill your bong water, wait. It makes medical sense &#8212; the author works in <a href="http://kill.thatdamnpatient.com/?page_id=23">hospital</a> &#8212; and legal marijuana will certainly help patients by creating mass markets for less expensive, natural pain relief. The economic benefits are obvious: </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;[Y]ou see weed is (for the time being and for a long time coming) considered an illegal substance which may be harmful and because it’s an illegal substance law enforcers have to find the people who trade in it and erm …. arrest them.</p>
<p>Hiring people to do this costs money …. about $34,433,700,162 (this figure is the amount of money spent on the war on drugs, not weed specifically) a fair portion (about 7.7 billion annually) of which could have been put to better use.</p>
<p>Legalizing weed would also bring in an estimated 6.2 billion in tax revenue (raking in a grand total of 13.9 billion); it would also mean that organised crime would loose a fair chunk of their cash-flow (and for that matter so would big tobacco).</p></blockquote>
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<p>At the border with Afghanistan actually. There is an under-current of simmering tension between the United States and Pakistan, and this firing incident between the forces may be a grave portent for what may happen in the future as well. </p>
<p>What actually happened ? It depends on whom you believe, but there were 2 US helicopters near the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan (over it and in Pakistan, if you believe the Pakistani side). Pakistani troops shot at the helicopters (shot at them with flares in order to tell them that they were over the border, as per Asif Zardari, the President of Pakistan). These helicopters were actually covering a troop of US and Afghanistani forces that were patrolling the border, and these troops then fired at the Pakistani side in retaliation, who then fired back. It was supposedly over in 5 minutes, but you can be sure that the repercussions of this incident will <a href="http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gd5dxG7CW2G1xuR2Pvij-a2CAy1A">not be over in 5 minutes</a>:<br /><blockquote>Pakistan&#39;s President Asif Ali Zardari lashed out at the United States after their troops traded gunfire sparked by claims Pakistan forces shot at two US helicopters for alleged violation of airspace on the border with Afghanistan. &#34;Just as we will not let Pakistani&#39;s territory to be used by terrorists for attacks against our people and our neighbors, we cannot allow our territory and our sovereignty to be violated by our friends,&#34; he said without citing the United States or the border flareup. &#34;Unilateral actions of great powers should not inflame the passion of allies,&#34; he further said, cautioning that any cross border raids could be counterproductive.<br /><br />But a State Department spokesman earlier said Washington wanted an explanation from Pakistan, commenting that &#34;the Taliban are not flying helicopters.&#34; &#34;We have been in touch with the Pakistanis about this and we certainly want to have an explanation,&#34; the spokesman said.</blockquote><blockquote>A US official told AFP recently that Washington was frustrated with &#34;delays and sometimes non-answers&#34; from Islamabad regarding &#34;actionable intelligence&#34; on militant movements in the tribal areas in Pakistan along the border with Afghanistan, where Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants were believed to be hiding.<br /></blockquote>This is a natural step up in the series of incidents that have been escalating over the past few months, tremendously fraying the relationship between the United States and Pakistan. It has been an open secret that sections of the Pakistani military have been supporting the Taliban, and the previous Pakistani administration of Musharraf and the military were unwilling to do all they can to get rid of the support to the Taliban from their side (even if these same elements caused much trouble to them inside Pakistan). <br /><br />Reports started appearing in the US media about how the Bush administration is having second thoughts about whether Pakistan really wants to get rid of the terrorism within its borders, and then when the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul happened, the press was all over about how the US wants Pakistan to weed out the elements of the ISI that support terrorism and is no longer willing to believe everything that Islamabad says.<br /><br />The Pakistanis, under US pressure, have been letting drones into Pakistani territory and attack suspected terrorist hide-outs over there through missiles launched from these drones. However, when President Bush decided in July that rules have changed, and that the US will even attack inside Pakistani territory, this rattled Pakistan. After all, how can a Government allow its sovereign territory to be invaded by foreign forces without permission, and the Government cannot even think about being able to justify this internally. <br /><br />Already there is wide-spread anti-American feeling inside Pakistan. <br /><br />It would seem that General Kayani, the Pakistani Army Chief is fully behind the push to make sure that American forces cannot come inside Pakistan. Of course, since he is perceived to be not favoring President Zardari, what better way to embarrass him than to create an incident when Zardari is visiting the US and will not be able to explain things.<br /><br />What the Pakistani Government (including the Army Chief) may not have fully accounted for is the feelings that remain regarding September 11th. No US Government can afford to not be taking action when there are elements of terrorism at large and have been behind the past major attack. With the US being a country where a lot of the pressure happens through the media, there is an incredible amount of push towards making sure that Pakistan cleans up the terrorism in its backyard and gives up the policy of being state sponsors of terrorism. <br /><br />It has already been mentioned in the US campaign as well, and another such incident of firing could quickly escalate the political heat (currently the politicians are pre-occupied in scoring political points with respect to saving the economy). In addition, the Pakistani military gets a good source of funding from the US, and Congress is likely to put more pressure on linking that to showing a determination to get rid of terrorism.</p>]]></description>
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<p>At the border with Afghanistan actually. There is an under-current of simmering tension between the United States and Pakistan, and this firing incident between the forces may be a grave portent for what may happen in the future as well. </p>
<p>What actually happened ? It depends on whom you believe, but there were 2 US helicopters near the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan (over it and in Pakistan, if you believe the Pakistani side). Pakistani troops shot at the helicopters (shot at them with flares in order to tell them that they were over the border, as per Asif Zardari, the President of Pakistan). These helicopters were actually covering a troop of US and Afghanistani forces that were patrolling the border, and these troops then fired at the Pakistani side in retaliation, who then fired back. It was supposedly over in 5 minutes, but you can be sure that the repercussions of this incident will <a href="http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gd5dxG7CW2G1xuR2Pvij-a2CAy1A">not be over in 5 minutes</a>:<br /><blockquote>Pakistan&#39;s President Asif Ali Zardari lashed out at the United States after their troops traded gunfire sparked by claims Pakistan forces shot at two US helicopters for alleged violation of airspace on the border with Afghanistan. &quot;Just as we will not let Pakistani&#39;s territory to be used by terrorists for attacks against our people and our neighbors, we cannot allow our territory and our sovereignty to be violated by our friends,&quot; he said without citing the United States or the border flareup. &quot;Unilateral actions of great powers should not inflame the passion of allies,&quot; he further said, cautioning that any cross border raids could be counterproductive.<br /><br />But a State Department spokesman earlier said Washington wanted an explanation from Pakistan, commenting that &quot;the Taliban are not flying helicopters.&quot; &quot;We have been in touch with the Pakistanis about this and we certainly want to have an explanation,&quot; the spokesman said.</blockquote><blockquote>A US official told AFP recently that Washington was frustrated with &quot;delays and sometimes non-answers&quot; from Islamabad regarding &quot;actionable intelligence&quot; on militant movements in the tribal areas in Pakistan along the border with Afghanistan, where Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants were believed to be hiding.<br /></blockquote>This is a natural step up in the series of incidents that have been escalating over the past few months, tremendously fraying the relationship between the United States and Pakistan. It has been an open secret that sections of the Pakistani military have been supporting the Taliban, and the previous Pakistani administration of Musharraf and the military were unwilling to do all they can to get rid of the support to the Taliban from their side (even if these same elements caused much trouble to them inside Pakistan). <br /><br />Reports started appearing in the US media about how the Bush administration is having second thoughts about whether Pakistan really wants to get rid of the terrorism within its borders, and then when the bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul happened, the press was all over about how the US wants Pakistan to weed out the elements of the ISI that support terrorism and is no longer willing to believe everything that Islamabad says.<br /><br />The Pakistanis, under US pressure, have been letting drones into Pakistani territory and attack suspected terrorist hide-outs over there through missiles launched from these drones. However, when President Bush decided in July that rules have changed, and that the US will even attack inside Pakistani territory, this rattled Pakistan. After all, how can a Government allow its sovereign territory to be invaded by foreign forces without permission, and the Government cannot even think about being able to justify this internally. <br /><br />Already there is wide-spread anti-American feeling inside Pakistan. <br /><br />It would seem that General Kayani, the Pakistani Army Chief is fully behind the push to make sure that American forces cannot come inside Pakistan. Of course, since he is perceived to be not favoring President Zardari, what better way to embarrass him than to create an incident when Zardari is visiting the US and will not be able to explain things.<br /><br />What the Pakistani Government (including the Army Chief) may not have fully accounted for is the feelings that remain regarding September 11th. No US Government can afford to not be taking action when there are elements of terrorism at large and have been behind the past major attack. With the US being a country where a lot of the pressure happens through the media, there is an incredible amount of push towards making sure that Pakistan cleans up the terrorism in its backyard and gives up the policy of being state sponsors of terrorism. <br /><br />It has already been mentioned in the US campaign as well, and another such incident of firing could quickly escalate the political heat (currently the politicians are pre-occupied in scoring political points with respect to saving the economy). In addition, the Pakistani military gets a good source of funding from the US, and Congress is likely to put more pressure on linking that to showing a determination to get rid of terrorism.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>US media: Open hunting season on Pakistan</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[پاکستاان لیجر &#124; PAKISTAN LEDGER &#124; پاکستاني کھاتا  &#124;Sept. 23rd, 08 &#124; Moin Ansari &#124;  معین آنصآرّی &#124;      Pakistan faces many wars. She faces wars from India and her proxies in Afghanistan. She also faces a war of words...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[پاکستاان لیجر | PAKISTAN LEDGER | پاکستاني کھاتا  |Sept. 23rd, 08 | Moin Ansari |  معین آنصآرّی |   <br /><br />   Pakistan faces many wars. She faces wars from India and her proxies in Afghanistan. She also faces a war of words from the US press under the influence of the Indian lobby<br /><br />As Pakistan gets hammered by Taliban and Al Qaeda bombs in Islamabad (the Marriott to be precise), and by Hellfire missiles in FATA, the feeding frenzy in the US press builds to a crescendo. This week Newsweek published an article titled, "Pakistan's Double-Cross" by long-time Pakistan-sufferer, Sumit Ganguly. When Pakistanis read Ganguly's vicious hatchet job on Pakistan (and on history), they should take a deep breath and pause before they react. Despite his boring residual partition rage, Ganguly is not the one that has made Pakistan foreign policy target No 1 for US presidential candidates. It wasn't Ganguly who loathes ordinary Pakistanis so deeply that he thought it okay to reject their overwhelming will, and insist he knew what was good for Pakistan better. It wasn't Ganguly who signed the NRO, or fired the judges. Pakistanis need to learn very quickly that Pakistan's battles will be won and lost by its people, not by Cold War analysts trying to be relevant in Washington DC. <br /><br /><br />While English-speaking Pakistanis will either seethe with rage at Ganguly, or at the Pakistani "establishment", ordinary Pakistanis will have no reaction at all. It's not just that they can't read English, it's that they can't read period. That's why they don't know what the Magna Carta is. That's why they can't check the roznamcha for a record of their presence at the police station. That's why the FIR system favours the rural and industrial elite. That's why they have to depend on the feudal and industrial elite. That's why they vote for the PPP and the PML-Q. And that is why the rage of these English-speaking Pakistanis is heart-warming but without efficacy. The rage will not free ordinary Pakistanis from the clutches of their political and economic realities. The News: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 by Mosharraf Zaidi<br /><br />However there was a silver lining from an unusual source-The New York Times<br /><br />Help Pakistan government fight terrorism, NYT urges US <br /><br />* Editorial says increasing civilian casualties driving more people into Taliban’s hands<br /><br /><br />NEW YORK: An influential United Stated newspaper on Monday cautioned the Bush administration against attacks inside Pakistani territory and called for devising a policy to bolster Pakistan’s civilian government while enlisting its full support in the fight against extremists.<br /><br /><br />“If an American raid captured or killed a top Al Qaeda or Taliban operative, the backlash might be worth it. But if there were any chance of permanently rooting out extremists from the Tribal Areas, that will have to be done by Pakistan’s military, backed up with sustained programmes for economic and political development,” the New York Times (NYT) said in an editorial that expressed dissatisfaction with Pakistan’s efforts to counter terrorism.<br />The editorial also noted that US President George W Bush’s decision to send troops across the border was made in desperation.<br /><br /><br />Civilian casualties: “We fear that a rising number of civilian casualties, on both sides of the border, is driving more people into the hands of the repressive Taliban and other extremist groups. These attacks are also making Pakistan’s new President Asif Ali Zardari look weak and irrelevant,” said the editorial, titled ‘Running Out of Time’.<br /><br /><br />“He (Zardari) deserves a chance, and American support, to fulfil his promises to bolster democracy, clean up Pakistan’s intelligence services and work with the US to defeat terrorism.<br /><br /><br />“Zardari made a start, inviting President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan to his inauguration,” the NYT said, noting that in his speech to parliament on Saturday he had said his government would not allow terrorists to launch attacks on any neighbour from Pakistani soil, nor would it tolerate further American military incursions. <br /><br /><br />The NYT editorial said that US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen had made a ‘fence-mending trip’ to Pakistan last week, and that Pentagon officials say they are reviewing the overall strategy. <br />“Any revised plan must do a lot more to avoid civilian casualties and support, rather than undermine, Pakistan’s civilian leaders. Congress can do its part by approving a $7.5 billion aid package, intended to strengthen Pakistan’s democratic institutions and its counterinsurgency capabilities,” the editorial said. app]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Marriot&#39;s mystery Marines with strange steel boxes in Islamabad Pakistan</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[پاکستاان لیجر | PAKISTAN LEDGER | پاکستاني کھاتا  |Sept. 23rd, 08 | Moin Ansari |  معین آنصآرّی |   <br /><br />  <br /><br />Islamabad Pakistan Marriot: What was the US Marine role? <br /><br />(http://rupeenews.com/2008/09/21/islamabad-pakistan-marriot-what-was-the-us-marine-role/) <br /><br />Russian Military Analysts are reporting in the Kremlin today that the massive blast that caused 53 deaths at the Islamabad Marriott hotel in Pakistan was an operation conducted by India's foreign intelligence agency The Research and Analysis Wing [RAW] in an attempt to ‘decapitate’ Pakistan’s entire leadership. India had become ‘alarmed’ by the United States and Pakistan’s ISI plan...<br /><br />Americans’ presence at Marriott not a secret: US embassy <br /><br />Tuesday, September 23, 2008<br /><br />By Ansar Abbasi<br />ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani authorities are trying to solve the riddle of US Marines and their mysterious steel cases, which were shifted to the Marriott Hotel four days before the hotel was reduced to ashes by the worst ever terrorist attack in the history of the federal capital.<br /><br /><br />These authorities want to ascertain if it was a routine exercise or part of some special mission that does not have the approval of the Government of Pakistan.<br /><br /><br />The US embassy insists the activity witnessed was a team of support personnel that often and routinely precede and/or accompany certain US officials. However, the government authorities probing the matter have already got most of the facts ascertained as mentioned in The News story on Sunday.<br /><br /><br />According to an official source, the authorities were told that mysterious activity of the US Marines took place around 12:00 midnight on 16 September. Already the government has got the information that several rooms on the fourth floor of the Marriott were in permanent use of the US authorities. Three of these rooms were said to be inter-connected and contained some intelligence equipment and other material allegedly used for espionage.<br /><br /><br />Sadruddin Hashwani, the owner of the Marriott, when approached denied that the Americans had any such presence in the hotel and said that like any such hotel in the world his guests included people of different nationalities. “Why focus on the Americans unnecessarily,” Hashwani wondered. He refuted that the US embassy had permanently hired several rooms in his hotel.<br /><br /><br />The US embassy spokesperson Lou Fintor, however, when asked if the US embassy had hired several rooms in the Marriott Hotel for years, said in his written reply that the US embassy has been a frequent customer of the Marriott Hotel for many years. On any given day, he said, there were employees of the American embassy and official American visitors staying at the hotel. “There is nothing unusual, secretive or ‘mysterious’ about this,” he said.<br /><br /><br />When asked if three of these permanently hired rooms were interconnected, Fintor said, “For our frequent visiting delegations, the embassy often rented adjoining rooms — as we often do in other hotels in Pakistan and in the world.”<br /><br /><br />Responding to unconfirmed reports that the US-rented rooms in the Marriott Hotel were being used by the CIA for espionage purposes, he said, “Unfortunately, far too many things have been ‘said’ that have absolutely no basis in fact. There is no truth whatsoever in allegations that covert activity was taking place on the part of the United States government.”<br /><br /><br />The spokesman said that these allegations are inaccurate, irresponsible, baseless and completely without any foundation whatsoever.<br /><br /><br />About the Marines and the steel cases which were reported to have been shifted to the hotel between the night of 16 and 17 September and whether these Marines and the suitcases were in the hotel on the day of the blast or evacuated before, he said, “A team of support personnel often and routinely precede and/or accompany certain US government officials. They often carry communication and office equipment required to support large delegations, such as high-level administration officials and members of the US Congress.”<br /><br /><br />He added that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff would travel with communications equipment. “It is quite possible that some saw this communications equipment moved into the hotel. This equipment would leave with the CJCS. If the equipment was transported in full public view then obviously there was no attempt made to conceal its movement.”<br />Witnessed by many, including a PPP MNA and his friends, a US embassy’s truckload of steel boxes was unloaded and shifted inside the Marriott Hotel on September 16 midnight only after Mike Mullen, the US Admiral, had met Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and others in Islamabad and had already left. Both the main gates (the entrance and the exit) of the hotel were closed while no one except the US Marines was either allowed to go near the truck or get the steel boxes unloaded or shift them inside the hotel. These steel boxes were not being passed through the scanners installed at the entrance of the hotel’s lobby, and were reportedly shifted to the fourth and fifth floors of the Marriott.<br />The US embassy spokesman also confirmed that the Marriott rooms, which were in use of the US officials, had the communication and office equipment, which were transported for use by Admiral Mullen.<br /><br /><br />[contact-form]<br /><br />A hotel employee, on condition of not being named, confided that the hotel management had been receiving threats from unknown persons for the last six months to get the US officials vacated from the hotel. However, Mr Hashwani when confronted said that there has been no threat received by the hotel management.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>End of the Investment Bank Era on Wall Street?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It has been decades now that Wall Street has been run by big investment banks. The exact names may keep changing as some of the smaller firms became bigger, and some of the bigger firms fall (and of course, names keep on changing with mergers and acquisitions), but the basic structure of large investment firms that handled investments for individual depositors as well as large institutions (as distinct from banks who depend on deposits for their cheap source of capital) has more or remained constant for so long that most people do not know of any other mechanism on Wall Street. And then suddenly, in the space of an year, Poof!, it all disappears.</p>
<p>It started late last year when reports started coming in of problems in the category of non-collateral high-risk loans known as sub-prime. And these loans were in turn converted by financial magic into a range of investment instruments (explaining at more this level of detail will make this a highly technical discussion!) that were traded by a variety of financial institutions including banks and investment firms. When these sub-prime loans started collapsing, the sheer extent of these loans the subsequent losses caused huge losses for those holding these instruments.</p>
<p>Once people sensed that these investment firms were in danger, further credit to them was slow in coming, people started withdrawing their investments, and then the credit rating agencies started declaring them as various shades of high-risk, junk status. Once this happened, for all practical purposes, these institutions were finished, with the actual spiral of destruction collapsing very fast. And, now with the Administration and Federal Bank of the USA very worried, they have taken steps to prevent <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/21/news/companies/goldman_morgan/?postversion=2008092207" target="_blank">some of the more huge ones</a>:</p>
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Federal regulators converted Wall Street's remaining stand-alone investment banks - Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley - into bank holding companies Sunday night. The move allows Goldman and Morgan to scoop up retail banks and to streamline their borrowing from the Federal Reserve. But it also puts Goldman and Morgan under the Fed's supervision, increasing the agency's regulatory oversight and possibly forcing them to raise additional capital. As banks, Morgan and Goldman will be forced to take less risk, which will mean fewer profits.
<p>And it brings to a close the era of the Wall Street investment bank, a storied institution that traded stocks and bonds, advised mergers and showered lavish bonuses on its executives. In the past eight days, the federal government announced a $700 billion plan to rescue the financial sector by buying up troubled mortgage assets and an $85 billion emergency loan to insurance titan American International Group. Also, Lehman filed for bankruptcy and Bank of America took over Merrill Lynch. <br/>
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<p>So, even though both these huge huge firms were not in immediate financial danger, they were sensing that they were in grave danger of running afoul of sentiment. In a scenario where investment banks were automatically assumed to be in danger, neither of these firms would have wanted to be the next company picked up for speculation; once in the target of negative public sentiment, even a profitable investment bank could quickly reach the edge of collapse. </p>
<p>This action goes against the normal distance that the US Government would like to maintain from the private market, but politicians of all shades have realized the extreme danger to the economy, and are willing to run with this. Making these investment firms as companies that will act like normal banks will give far more stability.</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been decades now that Wall Street has been run by big investment banks. The exact names may keep changing as some of the smaller firms became bigger, and some of the bigger firms fall (and of course, names keep on changing with mergers and acquisitions), but the basic structure of large investment firms that handled investments for individual depositors as well as large institutions (as distinct from banks who depend on deposits for their cheap source of capital) has more or remained constant for so long that most people do not know of any other mechanism on Wall Street. And then suddenly, in the space of an year, Poof!, it all disappears.</p>
<p>It started late last year when reports started coming in of problems in the category of non-collateral high-risk loans known as sub-prime. And these loans were in turn converted by financial magic into a range of investment instruments (explaining at more this level of detail will make this a highly technical discussion!) that were traded by a variety of financial institutions including banks and investment firms. When these sub-prime loans started collapsing, the sheer extent of these loans the subsequent losses caused huge losses for those holding these instruments.</p>
<p>Once people sensed that these investment firms were in danger, further credit to them was slow in coming, people started withdrawing their investments, and then the credit rating agencies started declaring them as various shades of high-risk, junk status. Once this happened, for all practical purposes, these institutions were finished, with the actual spiral of destruction collapsing very fast. And, now with the Administration and Federal Bank of the USA very worried, they have taken steps to prevent <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/21/news/companies/goldman_morgan/?postversion=2008092207" >some of the more huge ones</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
Federal regulators converted Wall Street's remaining stand-alone investment banks - Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley - into bank holding companies Sunday night. The move allows Goldman and Morgan to scoop up retail banks and to streamline their borrowing from the Federal Reserve. But it also puts Goldman and Morgan under the Fed's supervision, increasing the agency's regulatory oversight and possibly forcing them to raise additional capital. As banks, Morgan and Goldman will be forced to take less risk, which will mean fewer profits.
<p>And it brings to a close the era of the Wall Street investment bank, a storied institution that traded stocks and bonds, advised mergers and showered lavish bonuses on its executives. In the past eight days, the federal government announced a $700 billion plan to rescue the financial sector by buying up troubled mortgage assets and an $85 billion emergency loan to insurance titan American International Group. Also, Lehman filed for bankruptcy and Bank of America took over Merrill Lynch. <br/>
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<p>So, even though both these huge huge firms were not in immediate financial danger, they were sensing that they were in grave danger of running afoul of sentiment. In a scenario where investment banks were automatically assumed to be in danger, neither of these firms would have wanted to be the next company picked up for speculation; once in the target of negative public sentiment, even a profitable investment bank could quickly reach the edge of collapse. </p>
<p>This action goes against the normal distance that the US Government would like to maintain from the private market, but politicians of all shades have realized the extreme danger to the economy, and are willing to run with this. Making these investment firms as companies that will act like normal banks will give far more stability.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Sarah Palin Meets Asif Zardari and Manmohan Sing</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>The first-term Alaska governor plans to meet seven world leaders and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in New York City this week, where the U.N. General Assembly is convening. The meetings might help her answer critics who say she is not ready to handle world affairs. Palin obtained her first passport last year. <a href="http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/22/1897044-sarah-palin-to-meet-with-7-world-leaders-at-un">Sarah Palin to meet with 7 world leaders at UN</a><br /></blockquote><br />Here is an exclusive transcript of the one on one meeting between President Asif Zardari and Sarah Palin held today in NYC.<br /><br />SP: Mr President<br />AZ: America Khapay<br />SP: Yes, yes...<br />AZ: You remind me of Shaheed Bibi<br />SP: Can I invite back my interpreter?<br />AZ: Yes, yes<br />(interpreter takes seat)<br />AZ: You look too young to have a daughter<br />SP: Well, kids today....<br />AZ: On behalf of the people of Pakistan I invite you to Pakistan<br />SP: Yes, I always wanted to see the Taj<br />AZ: You can address the joint session<br />SP: Joint? You smoke too<br />AZ: How do you know? Oh the CIA must have told you<br />SP: You must do more Mr President<br />AZ: More? Do you want to address the Corps Commanders Conference too?<br />(SP looks at the interpreter: she explains CCC)<br />SP: Mr President I meant Pakistan must do more in war against terror<br />AZ: Error? We all make error. Musharraf made an error. Sharif made an error<br />SP: We have a fight on our hands, we have a lot in common<br />AZ: Yes, we do. Both of us wear glasses<br /><br />***<br /><i>(later Sarah Palin meets up with Dr. Manmohan Singh)</i><br />***<br /><br />SP: Mr President<br />MS: Ha ha you are funny<br />SP: What did I say?<br />MS: We are the largest democracy in the world<br />SP: Yes, yes  I have heard about it<br />MS: Good luck in November<br />SP: Thank you, the world does not need more camel jockeys<br />MS: We have camels  and elephants too<br />SP: I&#39;d love to skin a tiger<br />MS: Tamil Tigers pose a problem for us too<br />SP: Are they also on the endangered species list...<br />MS: List?<br />SP: ...if they are our Administration would remove them...<br />MS: Remove what<br />SP: Then we can both go shoot them<br />MS: Mrs. Palin...<br />SP: Call me Sarah<br />MS: Mrs. Sarah India faces the terrorist menace too<br />SP: Sad, sad about the Marriott.  I prefer Hilton though<br />MS: Can we talk about the Nuclear business<br />SP: You must curb nuclear proliferation<br />MS: Mrs Sarah, you mean Pakistan should...<br />SP: Oh, am so sorry. You are Indian! You Pakis look so alike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>The first-term Alaska governor plans to meet seven world leaders and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in New York City this week, where the U.N. General Assembly is convening. The meetings might help her answer critics who say she is not ready to handle world affairs. Palin obtained her first passport last year. <a href="http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/22/1897044-sarah-palin-to-meet-with-7-world-leaders-at-un">Sarah Palin to meet with 7 world leaders at UN</a><br /></blockquote><br />Here is an exclusive transcript of the one on one meeting between President Asif Zardari and Sarah Palin held today in NYC.<br /><br />SP: Mr President<br />AZ: America Khapay<br />SP: Yes, yes...<br />AZ: You remind me of Shaheed Bibi<br />SP: Can I invite back my interpreter?<br />AZ: Yes, yes<br />(interpreter takes seat)<br />AZ: You look too young to have a daughter<br />SP: Well, kids today....<br />AZ: On behalf of the people of Pakistan I invite you to Pakistan<br />SP: Yes, I always wanted to see the Taj<br />AZ: You can address the joint session<br />SP: Joint? You smoke too<br />AZ: How do you know? Oh the CIA must have told you<br />SP: You must do more Mr President<br />AZ: More? Do you want to address the Corps Commanders Conference too?<br />(SP looks at the interpreter: she explains CCC)<br />SP: Mr President I meant Pakistan must do more in war against terror<br />AZ: Error? We all make error. Musharraf made an error. Sharif made an error<br />SP: We have a fight on our hands, we have a lot in common<br />AZ: Yes, we do. Both of us wear glasses<br /><br />***<br /><i>(later Sarah Palin meets up with Dr. Manmohan Singh)</i><br />***<br /><br />SP: Mr President<br />MS: Ha ha you are funny<br />SP: What did I say?<br />MS: We are the largest democracy in the world<br />SP: Yes, yes  I have heard about it<br />MS: Good luck in November<br />SP: Thank you, the world does not need more camel jockeys<br />MS: We have camels  and elephants too<br />SP: I&#39;d love to skin a tiger<br />MS: Tamil Tigers pose a problem for us too<br />SP: Are they also on the endangered species list...<br />MS: List?<br />SP: ...if they are our Administration would remove them...<br />MS: Remove what<br />SP: Then we can both go shoot them<br />MS: Mrs. Palin...<br />SP: Call me Sarah<br />MS: Mrs. Sarah India faces the terrorist menace too<br />SP: Sad, sad about the Marriott.  I prefer Hilton though<br />MS: Can we talk about the Nuclear business<br />SP: You must curb nuclear proliferation<br />MS: Mrs Sarah, you mean Pakistan should...<br />SP: Oh, am so sorry. You are Indian! You Pakis look so alike]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Barack Obama on Race &#038; IQ (From 1994)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Via <a href="http://www.andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com">Andrew Sullivan</a>, Razib at <a href="http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/09/barack-obama-on-bell-curve.php">Gene Expression</a> has posted this speech which Obama gave in 1994. Its not that long so I'm posting the whole thing after the jump because it sums up my views on this. I will say though that I think Obama is being unfair when he accuses Charles Murray of racism. 

I think that Murray is one of those rare thinkers who put forward these opinions because he was genuinely searching for the truth. For instance Obama argues against welfare reform which Murray also propagated, but which according to a lot of serious people has played a big role in getting black people in the inner cities out of poverty. The fact it hasn't been accompanied with health care reform is another matter. 

Also in Murray's favour is the fact that he was one of the few right-wing thinkers/pundits <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTM4MjJkYmNhMjM5MjQ1YzVhNzhjMTE3NzQ1ZWI4MjU=">who saw the brilliance</a># in Obama's post Rev. Wright speech on Race.

My review of John McWhorter's book, 'Losing the Race' is also relevant. Anyways, the speech is after the jump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via <a href="http://www.andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com">Andrew Sullivan</a>, Razib at <a href="http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/09/barack-obama-on-bell-curve.php">Gene Expression</a> has posted this speech which Obama gave in 1994. Its not that long so I&#8217;m posting the whole thing after the jump because it sums up my views on this. I will say though that I think Obama is being unfair when he accuses Charles Murray of racism. </p>
<p>I think that Murray is one of those rare thinkers who put forward these opinions because he was genuinely searching for the truth. For instance Obama argues against welfare reform which Murray also propagated, but which according to a lot of serious people has played a big role in getting black people in the inner cities out of poverty. The fact it hasn&#8217;t been accompanied with health care reform is another matter. </p>
<p>Also in Murray&#8217;s favour is the fact that he was one of the few right-wing thinkers/pundits <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTM4MjJkYmNhMjM5MjQ1YzVhNzhjMTE3NzQ1ZWI4MjU=">who saw the brilliance</a># in Obama&#8217;s post Rev. Wright speech on Race.</p>
<p>My review of John McWhorter&#8217;s book, &#8216;Losing the Race&#8217; is also relevant. Anyways, the speech is after the jump.</p>
<blockquote><p>NPR<br />
October 28, 1994<br />
SHOW: All Things Considered (NPR 4:30 pm ET)</p>
<p>Charles Murray&#8217;s Political Expediency Denounced<br />
BYLINE: BARACK OBAMA<br />
SECTION: News; Domestic<br />
LENGTH: 635 words</p>
<p>HIGHLIGHT: Commentator Barack Obama finds that Charles Murray, author of the controversial &#8220;The Bell Curve,&#8221; demonstrates not scientific expertise but spurious political motivation in his conclusions about race and IQ.</p>
<p>BARACK OBAMA, Commentator: Charles Murray is inviting American down a dangerous path.</p>
<p>NOAH ADAMS, Host: Civil rights lawyer, Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Mr. OBAMA: The idea that inferior genes account for the problems of the poor in general, and blacks in particular, isn&#8217;t new, of course. Racial supremacists have been using IQ tests to support their theories since the turn of the century. The arguments against such dubious science aren&#8217;t new either. Scientists have repeatedly told us that genes don&#8217;t vary much from one race to another, and psychologists have pointed out the role that language and other cultural barriers can play in depressing minority test scores, and no one disputes that children whose mothers smoke crack when they&#8217;re pregnant are going to have developmental problems.</p>
<p>Now, it shouldn&#8217;t take a genius to figure out that with early intervention such problems can be prevented. But Mr. Murray isn&#8217;t interested in prevention. He&#8217;s interested in pushing a very particular policy agenda, specifically, the elimination of affirmative action and welfare programs aimed at the poor. With one finger out to the political wind, Mr. Murray has apparently decided that white America is ready for a return to good old-fashioned racism so long as it&#8217;s artfully packaged and can admit for exceptions like Colin Powell. It&#8217;s easy to see the basis for Mr. Murray&#8217;s calculations. After watching their income stagnate or decline over the past decade, the majority of Americans are in an ugly mood and deeply resent any advantages, realor perceived, that minorities may enjoy.</p>
<p>I happen to think Mr. Murray&#8217;s wrong, not just in his estimation of black people, but in his estimation of the broader American public. But I do think Mr. Murray&#8217;s right about the growing distance between the races. The violence and despair of the inner city are real. So&#8217;s the problem of street crime. The longer we allow these problems to fester, the easier it becomes for white America to see all blacks as menacing and for black America to see all whites as racist. To close that gap, we&#8217;re going to have to do more than denounce Mr. Murray&#8217;s book. We&#8217;re going to have to take concrete and deliberate action. For blacks, that means taking greater responsibility for the state of our own communities. Too many of us use white racism as an excuse for self-defeating behavior. Too many of our young people think education is a white thing and that the values of hard work and discipline andself-respect are somehow outdated.</p>
<p>That being said, it&#8217;s time for all of us, and now I&#8217;m talking about the larger American community, to acknowledge that we&#8217;ve never even come close to providing equal opportunity to the majority of black children. Real opportunity would mean quality prenatal care for all women and well-funded and innovative public schools for all children. Real opportunity would mean a job at a living wage for everyone who was willing to work, jobs that can return some structure and dignity to people&#8217;s lives and give inner-city children something more than a basketball rim to shoot for. In the short run, such ladders of opportunity are going to cost more, not less, than either welfare or affirmative action. But, in the long run, our investment should payoff handsomely. That we fail to make this investment is just plain stupid. It&#8217;s not the result of an intellectual deficit. It&#8217;s theresult of a moral deficit.</p>
<p>ADAMS: Barack Obama is a civil rights lawyer and writer. He lives in Chicago.</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all the talk about Barack Obama losing the white women vote to McCain, because of Sarah Palin, a new NY Times poll debunks this idea:
But the Times/CBS News poll suggested that Ms. Palin’s selection has, to date, helped Mr. McCain only among Republican base voters; there was no evidence of significantly increased support for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the talk about Barack Obama losing the white women vote to McCain, because of Sarah Palin, a new NY Times poll debunks this idea:</p>
<blockquote><p>But the Times/CBS News poll suggested that Ms. Palin’s selection has, to date, helped Mr. McCain only among Republican base voters; there was no evidence of significantly increased support for him among women in general. White women were evenly divided between Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama; before the conventions, Mr. McCain led Mr. Obama among white women, 44 percent to 37 percent.</p>
<p>By contrast, at this point in the 2004 campaign, President Bush was leading Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic challenger, by 56 percent to 37 percent among white women.</p></blockquote>
<p>The poll also notes that: &#8220;The percentage of Americans who disapprove of the way Mr. Bush is conducting his job, 68 percent, was as high as it has been for any sitting president in the history of New York Times polling.&#8221; - hah! But apparently, opposing Bush&#8217;s policies is anti-American prejudice.</p>
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		<title>Black comedian introduces John McCain</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the funniest thing <a href="http://www.observer.com/2008/style/black-comic-introduces-mccain">I've read today</a>:

<blockquote>What up, RNC!
<em>(cheers)</em>
You white motherfuckers!
<em>(laughter)</em>
This conference so white, Helen Mirren tried to snort it!</blockquote>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the funniest thing <a href="http://www.observer.com/2008/style/black-comic-introduces-mccain">I&#8217;ve read today</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>What up, RNC!<br />
<em>(cheers)</em><br />
You white motherfuckers!<br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
This conference so white, Helen Mirren tried to snort it!</p>
<p><em>(laughter)</em><br />
Y’all the whitest white people in the history of white people. Even Barbara Bush sitting here right now going: ‘These are some <em>white</em> motherfuckers.’<br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
You’re so white, your vice presidential nominee got the word ‘pale’ in her name!<br />
<em>(laughter, applause) </em></p>
<p>Look at this place. I can’t <em>believe</em> this shit! Y’all couldn’t find one single brother?<br />
<em>(shouting)</em><br />
There is? Where?<br />
<em>(shouting)</em><br />
<span>Yo, what up, brother! Looks like you the only chocolate chip in the cookie.</span><br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
You look like a fly in a glass of milk, yo. Swim! Swim for your life!<br />
<em>(laughter)</em></p>
<p>Alaska in the house!<br />
<em>(Cheers)</em><br />
Where the baby daddy at? Where he at?<br />
<em>(crowd noise)</em><br />
You knocked her up, man? That’s cool. That’s cool.<br />
<em>(silence)</em><br />
<span>You know that word ‘abstinence’—</span>you know that mean ‘no fucking,’ right?<br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
I guess they didn’t make that clear at the <em>seminar</em>. </p>
<p><em>(laughter)</em><br />
‘So I just use this <em>abstinence</em>, that mean we can fuck all we want, right?’ <em>No</em>!<br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
But you know I <em>feel</em> you, man. I do. Because the fact is, you live in motherfucking A<em>las</em>ka! What else is there to do but fuck?<br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
Just fuck! That’s all there is to do! Just fuck!<br />
<em>(laughter)</em></p>
<p>That’s all Alaska is. Just a bunch of crazy white people fucking!<br />
<em>(sustained laughter and applause)</em><br />
And you know he <em>got</em> to marry that girl, too. Because … her momma done shot a <em>moose</em>. </p>
<p><em>(laughter)</em><br />
She shot a motherfucking moose! Put its head up on the wall and everything. That’s cold, man. That’s like Al Qaeda shit. Post that shit on the Internet as a warning to other moose.<br />
<em>(laughter)</em></p>
<p><em>’</em>Cause when a girl’s momma shoot a moose, that’s, like, a red flag for me. I take that shit into consideration. I do! It’s like, ‘Yeah, you fine. No doubt. You <em>real</em> fine. And you got a great personality. <em>And</em> you drunk. But … ain’t your momma the one done shot a <em>moose</em>? I’ll be seeing you later on.’ I practice <em>abstinence</em> with moose-shooting-momma-having bitches.<br />
<em>(laughter)</em></p>
<p>But it’s time to bring out the white man you’ve all been waiting for. This man is so white, he makes y’all look Mexican.<br />
<em>(laughter)</em><br />
He spent five long years locked up in a POW camp, and returned a national hero.<br />
<em>(applause)</em><br />
And fucked every white woman in America.<br />
<em>(sustained applause)</em><br />
’Cause five years—that makes you horny. And women, they <em>looove</em> to fuck war heroes. Basically, if you were white and female in 1973, you were fucked by John McCain. </p>
<p><em>(“USA! USA! USA!”)</em><br />
And then he married a fine rich white girl whose daddy owned a beer company.<br />
<em>(laughter, applause)</em></p>
<p>And he wants to be president? <em>Sheeet</em>, you already got money, beer <em>and</em> pussy! What the fuck you want with the <em>presidency</em>? Quit while you’re ahead! You’re 72 years old—just drink, fuck, and play golf, you dumb white motherfucker!<br />
<em>(raucous laughter, applause)</em></p>
<p>Ladies and gentlemen, the next President of the United   States of America, John McCain!</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>It was another day and age when the cold war was still raging and the world was still multipolar. Sitting in my Air Force base, I would twiddle my radio knobs in search of some entertainment. Sooner or later, the radio would settle into one of four stations, the BBC, 	the Voice of America, Radio Moscow and Radio Beijing. Leading the pack would be the venerable BBC with an eclectic mix of music, news, book readings, and even live concerts like the BBC&#8217;s Proms in the Park. Radio Moscow was strong on classical music and Radio Beijing on orchestral music and the Voice of America for talk shows. <br /><br />Each of those stations had their niche and loyal fans and although except for the BBC, even though the other stations were unabashedly propagandistic, listening to two or more stations helped to form a some what more well rounded view of the world. Where else would you hear coverage of Cuba&#8217;s health care system? Or the land reforms in the Democratic Peoples&#8217; Republic of Laos? Not surely on CNN.<br /><br />Over the years the world change the radio stations have changed and of course technology has changed. All these stations broadcast on short wave frequencies and listeners had to battle static, fluctuating signals depending on local weather conditions( political or meteorological weather, both ! and stations with more powerful signals broadcasting on a near by  frequency. <br /><br />Over the years, all the stations have changed their character and focus as the cold war ended and other broadcasting platforms became available. The BBC has adapted to the era of the cable television and the satellite radio but the others have not &#8211; not in their original avatars and one of them&#8230; the Voice of America died a silent death for India as VOA&#8217;s Hindi service comes to an end at the end of this month.<br /><br />The Voice of America, more the Voice of the US Government than its people of course has in a review of its priories in the post 9/11 era decided to wind up the fairly popular Hindi service. I suppose that it has in ways outlived its strategic utility. In the cold war time, with the Indian government firmly tilted towards the Soviet Union, the VOA was a helpful tool for the American media to connect with the Indian public. I suppose that with no Soviet Union left today and both the major political formations in India today &#8211; the NDA or the UPA firmly looking to the USA for anchor, the VOA is no longer needed to whisper Uncle Sam&#8217;s sweet nothings to Indian ears.<br /><br />While that may be so, the radio programs always have had loyal listeners&#8217; clubs in the country and these will be devastated. Many of these clubs have been nurtured through the generations and indeed &#8220;VOA listeners clubs&#34; have existed in small towns and villages across India, where radio is still a part of daily life. People there have no internet, cable television or even reliable electricity. But they have radio and the defining point for many is to on air for a brief while in the &#8220;Call In&#8221; programs. VOA pampers its listeners with pens, caps, diaries, T-shirts and key chains. Probably the most popular freebie is the colorful VOA calendar that adorns the mud walls of many homes.<br /><br />Meanwhile the big daddy of broadcasting in India, the venerable BBC is extending its footfall by engaging further with radio in the FM Mode. BBC has a stake in one of the local stations Radio One and although the Indian government still does not allow the broadcast of news by private channels, the BBC is positioning itself to do just that hoping for the policy to change some day soon. Of course the BBC has always been a commercially run business house and is making its business decisions based on long term business goals and not political agendas. The Voice of America and many of the other voices have been muted because their political objectives have been met. And yet for all the propaganda and the blatantly one sided coverage of news &#8211; these voices will be missed; if only they taught you to recognize propaganda well when you heard it over the air waves.<br /></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was another day and age when the cold war was still raging and the world was still multipolar. Sitting in my Air Force base, I would twiddle my radio knobs in search of some entertainment. Sooner or later, the radio would settle into one of four stations, the BBC, 	the Voice of America, Radio Moscow and Radio Beijing. Leading the pack would be the venerable BBC with an eclectic mix of music, news, book readings, and even live concerts like the BBC&rsquo;s Proms in the Park. Radio Moscow was strong on classical music and Radio Beijing on orchestral music and the Voice of America for talk shows. <br /><br />Each of those stations had their niche and loyal fans and although except for the BBC, even though the other stations were unabashedly propagandistic, listening to two or more stations helped to form a some what more well rounded view of the world. Where else would you hear coverage of Cuba&rsquo;s health care system? Or the land reforms in the Democratic Peoples&rsquo; Republic of Laos? Not surely on CNN.<br /><br />Over the years the world change the radio stations have changed and of course technology has changed. All these stations broadcast on short wave frequencies and listeners had to battle static, fluctuating signals depending on local weather conditions( political or meteorological weather, both ! and stations with more powerful signals broadcasting on a near by  frequency. <br /><br />Over the years, all the stations have changed their character and focus as the cold war ended and other broadcasting platforms became available. The BBC has adapted to the era of the cable television and the satellite radio but the others have not &ndash; not in their original avatars and one of them&hellip; the Voice of America died a silent death for India as VOA&rsquo;s Hindi service comes to an end at the end of this month.<br /><br />The Voice of America, more the Voice of the US Government than its people of course has in a review of its priories in the post 9/11 era decided to wind up the fairly popular Hindi service. I suppose that it has in ways outlived its strategic utility. In the cold war time, with the Indian government firmly tilted towards the Soviet Union, the VOA was a helpful tool for the American media to connect with the Indian public. I suppose that with no Soviet Union left today and both the major political formations in India today &ndash; the NDA or the UPA firmly looking to the USA for anchor, the VOA is no longer needed to whisper Uncle Sam&rsquo;s sweet nothings to Indian ears.<br /><br />While that may be so, the radio programs always have had loyal listeners&rsquo; clubs in the country and these will be devastated. Many of these clubs have been nurtured through the generations and indeed &ldquo;VOA listeners clubs&quot; have existed in small towns and villages across India, where radio is still a part of daily life. People there have no internet, cable television or even reliable electricity. But they have radio and the defining point for many is to on air for a brief while in the &ldquo;Call In&rdquo; programs. VOA pampers its listeners with pens, caps, diaries, T-shirts and key chains. Probably the most popular freebie is the colorful VOA calendar that adorns the mud walls of many homes.<br /><br />Meanwhile the big daddy of broadcasting in India, the venerable BBC is extending its footfall by engaging further with radio in the FM Mode. BBC has a stake in one of the local stations Radio One and although the Indian government still does not allow the broadcast of news by private channels, the BBC is positioning itself to do just that hoping for the policy to change some day soon. Of course the BBC has always been a commercially run business house and is making its business decisions based on long term business goals and not political agendas. The Voice of America and many of the other voices have been muted because their political objectives have been met. And yet for all the propaganda and the blatantly one sided coverage of news &ndash; these voices will be missed; if only they taught you to recognize propaganda well when you heard it over the air waves.<br /></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>12 reasons why Obama will still win</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob Elisberg <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/12-reasons-why-obama-bide_b_125645.html">makes some good points</a>:

<blockquote>4) Close as the polls seem to show, some pollsters are now acknowledging they might not have taken into account the huge shift of voter identification from Republican to Democrat, which they themselves say might have made results appear closer than they are.

5) Close as the polls seem, pollsters don't call cell phones. And those who most-use cell phones only are young people, who overwhelmingly are supporters of Obama over McCain.
...
6) We don't elect by national vote. Among various state polls, Sen. Obama is ahead by around 30 Electoral votes. Though both he and Sen. McCain are short of the majority needed, Barack Obama has a polling lead in Electoral votes of over 15 percent.

7) Contrary to the Washington Post writing that we're in the "final stretch" of the campaign, we're actually at the very beginning. Both nominees were only settled a mere week ago. There are still four, major debates. In 1976, Jimmy Carter had a 33-point lead after the Democratic convention; he ended up winning by two points.</blockquote>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Elisberg <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/12-reasons-why-obama-bide_b_125645.html">makes some good points</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>4) Close as the polls seem to show, some pollsters are now acknowledging they might not have taken into account the huge shift of voter identification from Republican to Democrat, which they themselves say might have made results appear closer than they are.</p>
<p>5) Close as the polls seem, pollsters don&#8217;t call cell phones. And those who most-use cell phones only are young people, who overwhelmingly are supporters of Obama over McCain.<br />
&#8230;<br />
6) We don&#8217;t elect by national vote. Among various state polls, Sen. Obama is ahead by around 30 Electoral votes. Though both he and Sen. McCain are short of the majority needed, Barack Obama has a polling lead in Electoral votes of over 15 percent.</p>
<p>7) Contrary to the Washington Post writing that we&#8217;re in the &#8220;final stretch&#8221; of the campaign, we&#8217;re actually at the very beginning. Both nominees were only settled a mere week ago. There are still four, major debates. In 1976, Jimmy Carter had a 33-point lead after the Democratic convention; he ended up winning by two points.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think his most important point is that the people who are running Barack Obama&#8217;s campaign are smart people. There&#8217;s no denying that. The biggest danger for Obama now is that he reacts rashly to McCain and Palin goading him, and makes a gaffe that shifts public opinion against him strongly. </p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t to say the Republican team aren&#8217;t trying their best. They&#8217;ve started putting out ads now <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/gutter-politics-mccain-ca_n_125291.html">that blatantly lie</a> (such the accusation that Obama has sent 30 people to Alaska to dig dirt on Palin), and they&#8217;ve been doing their best to make the election about rubbish like &#8216;lipstickgate&#8217;.</p>
<p>But it does raise one point though. The American media is so thoroughly cowed by the right-wing smear machine that when they raise a silly controversy, then the media covers it <em>because everyone else is</em>. But when there are serious questions to be asked about Palin&#8217;s own lies (she keeps saying she cut costs in Alaska, when the opposite is true) they are nowhere to be found. </p>
<p>The Republicans have become mightily good at playing elections on their own terms. They smeared Hillary Clinton with sexist remarks when she was running, and then started playing the victim card even when there&#8217;s been no sexism from the Obama campaign against Palin. How? How do they manage to drive the agenda?</p>
<p>Obviously, the media helps. Then there&#8217;s the complete lack of any principles - one minute they&#8217;re questioning Clinton&#8217;s capabilities, next thing you know Sarah Palin is the most competent person on foreign policy because her state borders Russia. Great logic there. Could this be the problem with lefties? Far too many principles to care so ruthlessly about winning an election that you&#8217;d put out bare-faced lies?</p>
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