http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/17/todays-faves-obamessiah-a-change-in-faith-and-right-wing-republicans/ Americans vote. The world speaks. Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:24:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/17/todays-faves-obamessiah-a-change-in-faith-and-right-wing-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-1236 Jary from Phoenix Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:27:47 +0000 http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/17/todays-faves-obamessiah-a-change-in-faith-and-right-wing-republicans/#comment-1236 To Kevin, "Joe the smuck" is a intellectual retort! You can almost always tell, by such a response, whether someone has actually ever had to meet a payroll, pay payroll taxes and suppliers and maybe even forgo a paycheck themselves to keep his or her employees coming back in tight times. Having spent a large amount of my work life in that world, I find those voices critical of what this sudden politcal phenomenom that "Joe the plumber" represents as tragically out of touch. Go put your own time, effort, and money at risk actually building something first, then see how your perspective changes. To Kevin, “Joe the smuck” is a intellectual retort! You can almost always tell, by such a response, whether someone has actually ever had to meet a payroll, pay payroll taxes and suppliers and maybe even forgo a paycheck themselves to keep his or her employees coming back in tight times. Having spent a large amount of my work life in that world, I find those voices critical of what this sudden politcal phenomenom that “Joe the plumber” represents as tragically out of touch. Go put your own time, effort, and money at risk actually building something first, then see how your perspective changes.

]]> http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/17/todays-faves-obamessiah-a-change-in-faith-and-right-wing-republicans/comment-page-1/#comment-1217 Kevin Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:23:46 +0000 http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/17/todays-faves-obamessiah-a-change-in-faith-and-right-wing-republicans/#comment-1217 Joe the plumber is kind of a joke. The guy has no plumbers licenes required by state law, and as far as taxes and Joe go he owes $1,100 in back taxes to the state, and if he intends to buy the company he works for his net profits after splitting salaries with employees he will be well below the $250,000 limit set by the Obama plan. Joe smuck is more like it. Joe the plumber is kind of a joke. The guy has no plumbers licenes required by state law, and as far as taxes and Joe go he owes $1,100 in back taxes to the state, and if he intends to buy the company he works for his net profits after splitting salaries with employees he will be well below the $250,000 limit set by the Obama plan. Joe smuck is more like it.

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