Vietnamese and Vietnamese-Americans on McCain

Vietnam War Hero. Prisoner of War. Victim of the Communist's captors. And, the list of adjectives goes on and on to describe Republican presidential nominee John McCain and his time in Vietnam.

So what do the Vietnamese, Vietnamese Americans and those with knowledge about Vietnam and the war, think of McCain and his time in the Southeast Asian country?

Vietnamese Guy from SF writes in his blog, tinou’s 730 steps, that he supports McCain:

“I've called Hillary a “bitch” and McCain a “sell-out”. Obama, he's just annoying with his head tilt. But in all seriousness, between Obama and McCain I have no choice but to support McCain. Here is why:
When I was born, my father was not around. Not because he was a dead beat dad, but because he was in a North Vietnamese “re-education” camp, a euphemism for prison. See, my father had gone to Europe for university then came back to Vietnam to work for Esso (Exxon). This, in the eyes of the Communist North Vietnamese, was traitorous, and deserved punishment. And so I was born without being held in my father's arms while he suffered in his own Hanoi Hilton.
If there had been more John McCains instead of John Kerrys my father might not have languished in that prison camp for years. He might not today wake up in the middle of night, sweating and disoriented, from horrific flashbacks. John McCain is a man of honour and courage. A man who fought for my country, my father and me when his country called upon him. For that, I am forever indebted.”

The Vietnamese Guy from SF then ties in the Vietnam War with Iraq.

What Barack Obama wants to do today in Iraq is what John Kerry did back then: undermine our opportunity for victory. Barack Obama has never seen war, has never witness the pure evil of Communism, radical Islam and the like. He sits in his Harvard office, strategizing how to withdraw from Iraq instead figuring out how to win the war so that Iraqi fathers and sons will not suffer the same fate as my father and I. When Barack Obama and his friends declare that the war is lost, they are sending Iraqi fathers to labor camps, and making sure that Iraqi sons are born without being held in their father's arms.
John McCain is fighting for those Iraqi fathers and sons. And for that, he has my vote.

Journalist and Hanoi resident Matt Steinglass, writes in his blog that Vietnamese (in Vietnam) won’t criticize McCain because they are still tired from the war or because of the restraint from the government.

Every member of the press I know here agrees: it’s almost impossible to write a story about John McCain’s time in Hanoi, from Hanoi. This is for several reasons. First, anyone who had actual contact with McCain during his time as a POW will be the kind of person who won’t tell you anything the government doesn’t want you to hear. They’re aging people retired from government-related jobs, with Communist Party ties. Since the government and Party want them to say approving things about McCain (who has been good for Vietnam in the past 15 years), but also don’t want to piss off Obama in case he gets elected, and since the government is also unwilling to admit that Vietnam ever tortured McCain or any other POWs, but doesn’t want to flat-out call McCain a liar (which would be ridiculously unconvincing in any case, since the testimony of POWs that they were tortured is voluminous), most of these old folks simply prefer not to say anything. The exceptions are people like the former Hanoi Hilton [Hoa Lo] commandant, Col. Duyet, who pretends that McCain and he were buddies and says he’d vote for him, while constantly contradicting everything McCain has said or written about his time there (we never put anyone in solitary confinement, we never beat anyone, there were never protests over Christian worship, and so on and so forth). You can’t really do very much with such unreliable testimony.

VietQ News blogger writes about Tran Trong Duyet’s public endorsement of McCain and what the “liberal press and liberal bogs” are writing.

Duyet talked about having McCain into his office for private chats. They argued about the war, he said. He called McCain a ‘frank man’, he said he was ‘loyal to his country and the American ideal’. In other words, he respected McCain’s behavior while in captivity. He confirms that McCain was not disloyal to his country during the years he was a prisoner of war.

What is interesting that the part the liberal press and the liberal blogs pick up on is that Duyet states that he never tortured McCain or any prisoners who were in the Hanoi Hilton. These liberal blogs ignore the obvious contradictions in Duyet’s statements. That he found McCain to be frank and loyal, yet lying about torture. That he has followed McCain’s career with interest, appreciates the work McCain has done to mend ties with Vietnam, but doesn’t know how McCain might react to seeing him again.

The blogger then goes on to write about why the colonel respects his former enemy.

For anyone who knows anything about warriors, you know that even though men might fight on opposing sides, a good soldier understands and respects the qualities of his enemies. World War II vets admired the discipline and tenaciousness of the Japanese and German warriors. The Japanese and Germans admired the shear naked courage of the Americans.

Author Irwin Tang, writes in his blog about McCain’s usage of the word “gooks.”

McCain’s most famous quote among Asian Americans. “I hate the gooks,” John McCain told America, “I will hate them as long as I live.”

John McCain’s decades-long habit of referring to Vietnamese people and individuals as “gooks” in the American mass media. He said that he only applied the racial slur to his captors, which is a lie. He also said that he would stop using the racial slur because he did not want to “feel the fire” for being racist.”

Tang ends his post that McCain makes similar racial slurs about Iranians.

He has already started the process of “gookification” of people in Iran by singing “bomb, bomb Iran” at rallies and commenting that perhaps the U.S. can “kill them” [people in Iran] through cigarette addiction.

5 comments

  • EAST COAST - USA

    Obama has been running around like a chicken with his head cut off!

    WHY IS OBAMA CHALLENGING GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN?

    GOVERNOR PALIN IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!

    WHY DOES OBAMA CONSTANTLY TELL US WHAT PRESIDENT BUSH HAS DONE?
    WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT HE HAS DONE.

    PRESIDENT BUSH IS NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!

    And WHY did Obama challenge Governor Sarah Palin to a game of basketball? Why did he refuse to meet with McCain in town-hall meetings to discuss “issues” with ‘American citizens’ instead of going overseas to meet with ‘foreigners’ who can’t vote?

    He refused to go on O’Reilly until the night John McCain gave his acceptance speech at the RNC. Obama is a snake in the grass.

    OBAMA IS TOO INEXPERIENCED AND IMMATURE TO HOLD THIS OFFICE. HE HAS TOLD TOO MANY LIES. HE HAS TOO MANY TIES TO TERRORISTS AND ANTI-AMERICANS. HIS 17-YEAR ASSOCIATION WITH TERRORIST WILLIAM AYERS ALONE DISQUALIFIES HIM.

    I’M VOTING FOR THE HONORABLE JOHN McCAIN. EXPERIENCE DOES MATTER.

  • A Vietnamese Guy

    I think McCain secretly considers Vietnamese people to be second class citizens. You can’t use a racial slur and say it only is meant for a certain segment of your population. For you to arrive at a place where a racial slur is necessary to articulate your thoughts means that your level of hatred is so great that your mind cannot clearly distinguish individuals. It’s like calling an African-American person the “N” word but saying, “I only meant it for these specific people, not you.” See how far that gets you. I’m not calling him a full blown racist by any means but there are degrees of racism and McCain obviously harbors some towards Vietnamese people.

    All that aside though, I see him as being divisive and I question his ability to unite Congress which is 100% necessary to be successful. His choice of Palin doesn’t help given her documented history of strong-arm tactics as a mayor and governor. That might have worked in Alaska but not in Washington. There’s nothing in her history to show that she can be effective without being the boss lady which she certainly will not be in Washington.

    In this instance, I’d rather go with a relative unknown with potential than a candidate with a proven unremarkable track record.

  • Vu

    I was born in Vietnam although I’ve leave in the US for most of my life.
    I am not questioning whether or not McCain is a hero or not.
    I just don’t want another 4 years of Bush-like administration.

    I’m one Vietnamese that is NOT for McCain.

    Obama 2008!

  • Tan Nguyen

    Few words about my background. A Vietnamese American who left Vietnam in the late 1970’s as boat people and have lived in the U.S for nearly 30 years. I have a few things to say about the politics of most of Vietnamese living in the U.S.

    Vietnamese Americans tend to vote Republican. PERIOD. The reason and perhaps the only reason is that they are holding on the illusion that the G.O.P is still anti-communist and, for them the Cold War is still going on. They tend to disregard other issues such as the economy, social issues, health care, education, race relation, etc..

    I am looking at this as a very serious problem. Older Vietnamese Americans who typically are not fluent in reading English so the only media they are getting are Vietnamese language media, which are still steadfastly feeding their readers/audience with anti-communist views of decades ago. The messages from the Democrats are not being delivered well on these media, if delivered at all. Unfortunately they are missing out on different political point of views that are found on mainstream U.S media.

    To me a vote casted by a less than fully informed voter is a total waste of a vote.

  • Nguyen Thanh Binh

    It is true that more than 2/3 of Vietnamese Americans blindly vote for Republicans. We are probably the Judas of the Asian American community, sadly. For an alternative view, please drop by this Vietnamese American website: http://www.visualgui.com

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